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Hello all,glad your back Lynn,missed ya all.Unfortunately I was down w/ flu this past week,hit me hard last week at work,ended up missing a few days of work and passing it to everyone in house.I have had trouble regrouping my appetite,and very stupidly thought it was dehydration,and was sucking down gatorade<seems no one told me thats NOT a good idea for diabetics

I will try to catch up on some of these emails,but gonna head to bead now...I am off 4 days after tomorrow so I get some good recovery time...Ummm...Betty,thought you ditched the granny panties?? LOL

hope you are all well and my love to all

Sandy

Thanks Lynn I might just have to try a plant or two this year. How many tomatoes do you usually get from one plant? I am not talking the Roma, grape, cherry or whatever else they make. I just want a regular tomato plant and since it is just me and Terry ( and I can't eat as many as I used to since my surgery reduced my stomach size), I don't want to end up with a lot of them and have them go to waste.

Hi,
I just subbed to this group and I want to introduce myself. I have a
few chronic disorders.
First, I have had chronic back pain and headaches for the last seven
years due to a very badly broken tailbone, which broke during the
birth of my first child (I have three now). Because of how badly it
is broken (the tip is almost completely broken off), my back is
messed up. Because right after I broke it, I would try to sit in
differant positions, to get comfortable. I have trouble sleeping at
night because of hip, neck and shoulder pain (the nerves in my
shoulders are being pinched), so I don't get much sleep. A
chiropractor was the one that diagnosed the reason for my back pain
(which we had suspected). The doctors wouldn't listen to me and the
doctors won't do anything, and we can't afford a chiropractor at this
time.
I also suffer from chonic heartburn. Which we suspect may be caused
by an ulcer we think I may have (it runs in my family). I went to the
doctor a month or two ago, after I experienced terrible pain in my
abdomen during the middle of the night. The doctor checked for food
poisening, but didn't find anything. I suspect I may have an ulcer
and thats what caused my pain, but my husband doesn't really want me
to go back to the doctor to find out for sure. Because he doesn't
think doctors around here no anything.
This next one may sound strange, but I also snuspect I have traumatic
stress disorder. Before I became a Christian three years ago (I left
a religious cult a few months before I became a Christian), my two
older boys kept getting reccurant ear and respiratory infections. At
the time I also had broncitis for two months. I hardley ever got any
sleep at that time. And strange as it may sound, it really
traumatized me. Three years ago, when I was pregnant with my third
child, he was diagnosed as having hydrocephalus. That time was really
scary for us. But God was with us through it all, and he was healed!
Then a year later, my second child had to have surgery on his
bladder, because his urine was backing up into his kidneys. Then a
year later my first child had to have surgery. Now whenever my kids
get sick, I start catastrophizing that something bad will happen to
them because they are sick. It probably sounds strange, but its been
really hard and painful emotionally whenever my kids get sick. And
they have been sick alot this year with flus and bad colds. It has
caused me to have a few panic attacks. I sometimes feel like kicking
myself for not trusting God in these situations.
I also suffer from depression, which I have had off and on since my
kids were little. I would really appreciate your prayers, because I
have really been having a hard time lately dealing with things, and
my depression has come back, because of my kids getting sick so much,
and we have been through alot of hard times lately. My faith in God
has suffered. I have never been able to deal with stress very well,
and I sometimes have a hard time giving this to God. Even though He
has proved that He can be trusted time and time again in these kinds
of situations. I keep thinking, "What is wrong with me?" Please pray
that God will give me the strength to get through it all. And to give
me the faith I need.
Thanks! And God Bless!
Jenn

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The Room
Beware, this is really powerful. I have received this story before, but I
think
it is one of the classics which can't be repeated enough.........
In the place between wakefulness and dreams, I found myself in the room.
There
were no distinguishing features except for the one wall covered with small
index
card files. They were like the ones in libraries that list title by author
or
subject in alphabetical order. But these files, which stretched from floor
to
ceiling and seemingly endlessly in either direction, had very different
headings.
As I drew near the wall of files, the first to catch my attention was
one that read "Girls I have liked." I opened it and began flipping
through the cards. I quickly shut it, shocked to realize that I
recognized the names written on each one.
And then without being told, I knew exactly where I was. The lifeless room
with
it's small files was a crude catalog system for my life. Here were written
the
actions of my every moment, big and small, in a detail my memory couldn't
match.
A sense of wonder and curiosity, coupled with horror, stirred within me as I
began randomly opening files and exploring their content. Some brought joy
and
sweet memories; others a sense of shame and regret so intense that I would
look
over my shoulder to see if anyone was watching.
A file named "Friends" was next to one marked "Friends I have betrayed." The
titles ranged from the mundane to the outright weird. "Books I Have Read,"
"Lies I Have Told," "Comfort I have Given," "Jokes I Have Laughed at."
Some
were almost hilarious in the exactness: "Things I've yelled at my
brothers".
Others I couldn't laugh at: "Things I Have Done in My Anger", "Things I
Have
Muttered Under my Breath at My Parents."
I never ceased to be surprised by the contents. Often there were many more
cards than I expected. Sometimes fewer than I hoped. I was overwhelmed by
the
sheer volume of the life I had lived. Could it be possible that I had the
time
in my 40 years to write each of these thousands or even millions of cards?
But
each card confirmed this truth. Each was written in my own handwriting.
Each
signed with my signature.
When I pulled out the file marked "Songs I have listened to," I realized the
files grew to contain their contents. The cards were packed tightly, and
yet
after two or three yards, I hadn't found the end of the file. I shut it,
shamed, not so much by the quality of music, but more the vast amount of
time I
knew that file represented.
When I came to a file marked "Lustful Thoughts," I felt a chill run
through my body. I pulled the file out only an inch, not willing to
test its size, and drew out a card. I shuddered at its detailed
content. I felt sick to think that such a moment had been recorded. An
almost
animal rage broke on me.
One thought dominated my mind: "No one must ever see these cards! No one
must
ever see this room! I have to destroy them!" In insane frenzy I yanked the
file out. It's size didn't matter now. I had to empty it and burn the
cards.
But as I took it at one end and began pounding it on the floor, I could not
dislodge a single card. I became desperate and pulled out a card, only to
find
it as strong as steel when I tried to tear it.
Defeated and utterly helpless, I returned the file to its slot. Leaning my
forehead against the wall, I let out a long, self-pitying sigh. And then I
saw
it. The title bore "People I Have Shared The Gospel With." The handle was
brighter than those around it, newer, almost unused. I pulled on its
handle and
a small box not more than three inches long fell into my hands. I could
count
the cards it contained on one hand.
And then the tears came. I began to weep. Sobs so deep that the hurt
started
in my stomach and shook through me. I fell on my knees and cried. I cried
out
of shame, from the overwhelming shame of it all. The rows of file shelves
swirled in my tear-filled eyes. No one must ever, ever know of this room.
I
must lock it up and hide the key.
But then as I push away the tears, I saw Him. No, please not Him. Not
here.
Oh, anyone but Jesus. I watched helplessly as He began to open the files
and
read the cards. I couldn't bear to watch His response.
And in the moments I could bring myself to look at his face, I saw a sorrow
deeper than my own. He seemed to intuitively go to the worst boxes. Why
did He
have to read every one?
Finally He turned and looked at me from across the room. He looked at me
with
pity in His eyes. But this was a pity that didn't anger me. I dropped my
head,
covered my face with my hands and began to cry again.
He walked over and put His arms around me. He could have said so many
things.
But He didn't say a word. He just cried with me. Then He got up and walked
back to the wall of files. Starting at one end of the room, He took out a
file
and, one by one, began to sign his name over mine on each card. "No!" I
shouted
rushing to Him. All I could say was "No, no," as I pulled the card from
Him.
His name shouldn't be on these cards. But there it was, written in red so
rich, so dark, so alive.
The name of Jesus covered mine. It was written with His blood. He gently
took
the card back. He smiled a sad smile and began to sign the cards. I don't
think
I'll ever understand how He did it so quickly, but the next instant it
seemed I
heard Him close the last file and walked back to my side. He placed His
hand on
my shoulder and said, "It is finished." I stood up, and He led me out of
the
room. There was no lock on its door. There were still cards to be
written. "
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Philippians 4:13
This story is the best e-mail story I have ever read. "For God so loved the
world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not
perish
but have eternal life."
If you feel the same way forward it to as many people as you can so the
love of
Jesus will touch their lives also.
My "People I Shared the Gospel With" file just got bigger; how about yours?

WILL I ALWAYS?
I don't have to act strong,
God knows that I am weak.
Why pretend to be so brave
When I'm almost to scared to speak?
So what if you see me cry
Or shaking like a leaf?
Why should I pretend with you?
Why not let you share my grief?
Am I scared about my future?
I sure am I will confess.
But then I remember Christ my Savior,
And I know my soul He'll bless.
I know that I may suffer,
But I know that He did too.
And if my perfect, sinless Lord did,
Then it's the least that I can do.
Will I suffer then in silence?
To be truthful, probably not.
But as I trust Him in every battle
May they say my how he fought.
Will I make the right decisions
And always act the way I should?
The answer is I doubt it,
But I'd be glad to if I could.
I want to be God's witness
In all I do or say,
And I know His strength's sufficient
For tomorrow and for today.
So I'll trust Him for the moment,
Let Him lead me by the hand,
And let Him show me the pathway
Step by step to Heaven's land.
When I am with Him in glory,
What a happy day twill be.
And I pray that you, too, will trust Him,
So that you can be with me.
Bob Hefner
~~~~~~~
God's Recipe
A cup of joy
And a dash of love
Will keep God's happiness
Flowing from above.
A pound of hope
With kindness packed beneath
Will keep your heart
Tender and sweet.
A barrel of patience
And a spoon of peace
Will calm your soul
And your wrath will cease.
A yard of gentleness
And a foot of grace
Will keep you traveling
At a steady pace.
When these ingredients
Are mixed together
We can sail right through
Life's stormy weather.

Actually I did hear about the panties. Remember what I said about the visual? LOL

And I am not Catholic so does it do me any good to say the Hail Mary's and Our Father's? I really don't know how. God might not understand and oohhhhhhhh what might he think of me then? I might end up praying something horrible about Betty going to the supermarket and stacking the crisco and dancing in her granny panties and maybe she could be the one that ends up naked when they fall down. think that was Lynn's idea???? LOL

WE ARE NEVER ALONE
This is a true story that occurred in 1994 and is told by Lloyd Glen:
Throughout our lives we are blessed with spiritual experiences, some of
which are very sacred and confidential, and others, although sacred, are
meant to be shared.
Last summer my family had a spiritual experience that had a lasting and
profound impact on us, one we feel must be shared. It's a message of love.
It's a message of regaining perspective, and restoring proper balance and
renewing priorities. In humility, I pray that I might, in relating this
story, give you a gift my little son, Brian, gave our family one summer day
last year.
On July 22nd I was enroute to Washington DC for a business trip. It was
all so very ordinary, until we landed in Denver for a plane change. As I
collected my belongings from the overhead bin, an announcement was made for
Mr. Lloyd Glenn to see the United Customer Service Representative
immediately. I thought nothing of it until I reached the door to leave the
plane and I heard a gentleman asking every male if they were Mr.Glenn. At
this point I knew something was wrong and my heart sunk. When I got off the
plane a solemn-faced young man came toward me and said, "Mr. Glenn, there is
an emergency at your home. I do not know what the emergency is or who is
involved, but I will take you to the phone so you can call the hospital."
My heart was now pounding, but the will to be calm took over.
Woodenly,I followed this stranger to the distant telephone where I called
the number he gave me for the Mission Hospital. My call was put through to
the trauma center where I learned that my three-year-old son had been
trapped underneath the automatic garage door for several minutes, and that
when my wife had found him he was dead. CPR had been performed by a
neighbor,who is a doctor, and the paramedics had continued the treatment as
Brian was transported to the hospital. By the time of my call, Brian was
revived and they believed he would live, but they did not know how much
damage had been done to his brain, nor to his heart. They explained that the
door had completely closed on his little sternum right over his heart. He
had been severely crushed. After speaking with the medical staff, my wife
sounded worried but not hysterical, and I took comfort in her calmness. The
return flight seemed to last forever, but finally I arrived at the hospital
six hours after the garage door had come down. When I walked into the
intensive care unit,nothing could have prepared me to see my little son
laying so still on a great big bed with tubes and monitors everywhere. He
was on a respirator. I glanced at my wife who stood and tried to give me a
reassuring smile. It all seemed like a terrible dream. I was filled-in with
the details and given a guarded prognosis. Brian was going to live, and the
preliminary tests indicated that his heart was ok, two miracles in and of
themselves. But only time would tell if his brain received any damage.
Throughout the seemingly endless hours,my wife was calm. She felt that Brian
would eventually be all right. I hung on to her words and faith, like a
lifeline. All that night and the next day Brian remained unconscious. It
seemed like forever since I had left for my business trip the day before.
Finally at two o'clock that afternoon, our son regained consciousness and
sat up uttering the most beautiful words I have ever heard spoken. He said,
"Daddy hold me" and he reached for me with his little arms.
By the next day he was pronounced as having no neurological or physical
deficits, and the story of his miraculous survival spread throughout the
hospital. You cannot imagine our gratitude and joy. As we took Brian home we
felt a unique reverence for the life and love of our Heavenly Father that
comes to those who brush death so closely. In the days that followed there
was a special spirit about our home. Our two older children were much closer
to their little brother. My wife and I were much closer to each other, and
all of us were very close as a whole family. Life took on a less stressful
pace. Perspective seemed to be more focused, and balance much easier to gain
and maintain. We felt deeply blessed. Our gratitude was truly profound.
The story is not over (smile)! Almost a month later to the day of the
accident, Brian awoke from his afternoon nap and said, "Sit down mommy. I
have something to tell you." At this time in his life, Brian usually spoke
in small phrases, so to say a large sentence surprised my wife. She sat down
with him on his bed and he began his sacred and remarkable story. "Do you
remember when I got stuck under the garage door? Well it was so heavy and it
hurt really bad. I called to you, but you couldn't hear me. I started to
cry, but then it hurt too bad. And then the 'birdies' came. "The birdies?"
my wife asked puzzled. "Yes," he replied. The birdies made a whooshing sound
and flew into the garage. They took care of me." "They did?" "Yes" he
said. "One of the birdies came and got you. She came to tell you I got stuck
under the door."
A sweet reverent feeling filled the room. The spirit was so strong and
yet lighter than air. My wife realized that a three-year-old had no concept
of death and spirits, so he was referring to the beings who came to him from
beyond as "birdies" because they were up in the air like birds that
fly."What did the birdies look like?" she asked. Brian answered, "They were
so beautiful. They were dressed in white, all white. Some of them had green
and white. But some of them had on just white." "Did they say anything?"
"Yes" he answered. "They told me the baby would be alright." "The baby?" my
wife asked confused. Brian answered. "The baby laying on the garage floor."
He went on, "You came out and opened the garage door and ran to the baby.
You told the baby to stay and not leave." My wife nearly collapsed upon
hearing this, for she had indeed gone and knelt beside Brian's body and
seeing his crushed chest and recognizable features, knowing he was dead, she
looked up around her and whispered, "Don't
leave us Brian, please stay if you can. As she listened to Brian telling her
the words she had spoken, she realized that the spirit had left his body and
was looking down from above on this little lifeless form. "Then what
happened?" she asked. "We went on a trip." He said, "far, far away." He grew
agitated trying to say the things he didn't seem to have the words for.
My wife tried to calm and comfort him, and let him know it would be okay. He
struggled with wanting to tell something that obviously was very important
to him, but finding the words was difficult. "We flew so fast up in the air.
They're so pretty Mommy." he added. "And there is lots and lots of birdies."
My wife was stunned. Into her mind the sweet comforting spirit enveloped her
more soundly, but with an urgency she had never before known. Brian went on
to tell her that the "birdies" had told him that he had to come back and
tell everyone about the "birdies". He said they brought him back to the
house and that a big fire truck, and an ambulance were there. A man was
bringing the baby out on a white bed and he tried to tell the man that the
baby would be okay, but the man couldn't hear him. He said the birdies told
him he had to go with the ambulance, but they would be near him. He said,
they were so pretty and so peaceful, and he didn't want to come back. Then
the bright light came. He said that the light was so bright and so warm, and
he loved the bright light so much. Someone was in the bright light and put
their arms around him, and told him, "I love you but you have to go back.
You have to play baseball, and tell everyone about the birdies." Then the
person in the bright light kissed him and waved bye-bye.
Then woosh, the big sound came and they went into the clouds. The story went
on for an hour. He taught us that "birdies" were always with us, but we
don't see them because we look with our eyes and we don't hear them because
we listen with our ears. But they are always there, you can only see them in
here (he put his hand over his heart). They whisper the things to help us to
do what is right because they love us so much. Brian continued, stating, "I
have a plan, Mommy. You have a plan. Daddy has a plan. Everyone has a plan.
We must all live our plan and keep our promises. The birdies help us to do
that 'cause they love us so much."
In the weeks that followed, he often came to us and told all, or part
of it again and again. Always the story remained the same. The details were
never changed or out of order. A few times he added further bits of
information and clarified the message he had already delivered. It never
ceased to amaze us how he could tell such detail and speak beyond his
ability when he spoke of his "birdies". Everywhere he went, he told
strangers about "birdies".Surprisingly, no one ever looked at him strangely
when he did this. Rather, they always got a softened look on their face and
smiled. Needless to say, we have not been the same ever since that day, and
I pray we never will be. An Angel To Watch over You
Some people come into our lives and quickly go...
Some people become friends and stay while...
leaving beautiful footprints on our hearts...
and we are never quite the same because we have made a good
friend!!
Yesterday is history. Tomorrow a mystery.
Today is a gift. That's why it's called the present!
Live and savor every moment.....this is not a dress
rehearsal!
Have a Great Day

Hello Mike,
Have a nice trip,I love Ocean City ! I tried Duragisic patch, i had a
reaction,could not take them.Having a lot of pain today.Have a good one.Denise
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I am on the Duregisic patch. the 50 mcg hour. I never need my
breakthru pain meds Between the patch and the Stimulator I am at a
level 3 pain. Well group i am off to go on vacation to the beach.
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[INLINE] Well now Betty - don't get your grannie panties in a wad, I did give her a punishment...........LOL.....Oh..Dori, did you hear about that one, that Betty is loosing her panties? She was sick there for awhile and lost about hmmm 30 lbs. I guess, now her panties are falling down. So, I call them her grannie panties. LOL. I told her to be real careful what she wears with them, LOL. I think that was when she had the flu and bronchitis really bad. Poor baby was really sick. Dori- did you finish your Hail Marys and Our Fathers yet? LOL -

Love & hugs, Lynda [INLINE]

IT'S ONLY A QUARTER!
Several years ago a preacher moved to Houston, Texas. Some weeks after he
arrived, he had occasion to ride the bus from his home to the downtown area.
When he sat down, he discovered that the driver had accidentally given him a
quarter too much change. As he considered what to do, he thought to himself,
you better give the quarter back. It would be wrong to keep it. Then he
thought,
"Oh, forget it, it's only a quarter. Who would worry about this little
amount? Anyway the bus company already gets too much fare; they will never
miss it. Accept it as a gift from God and keep quiet."
When his stop came, he paused momentarily at the door, then he handed the
quarter to the driver and said, "Here, you gave me too much change." The
driver with a smile, replied,
"Aren't you the new preacher in town? I have been thinking lately about
going to worship somewhere. I just wanted to see what you would do if I
gave you too much change." When my friend stepped off the bus, he literally
grabbed the nearest light pole, and held on, and said, "O God, I almost
sold your Son for a quarter."
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The Lord's Team
The Lord's team was playing Satan's team. The Lord's team was at the bat,
the score was tied zero to zero, and it was the bottom of the ninth inning
with two outs.
They continued to watch as a batter stepped up to the plate whose name
was
Love. Love swung at the first pitch and hit a single, because Love never
fails.
The next batter was named Faith, who also got a single because Faith works
with Love.
The next batter up was named Godly Wisdom.
Satan wound up and threw the first pitch. Godly Wisdom looked it over and
let it pass. Ball one. Three more pitches and Godly Wisdom walked, because
Godly Wisdom never swings at what Satan throws.
The bases were loaded.
The Lord then turned to Bob and told him he was now going to bring His
star player. Up to the plate stepped Grace. Bob said, "He sure doesn't look
like much!
Satan's whole team relaxed when they saw Grace. Thinking he had won the
game, Satan wound up and fired his first pitch. To the shock of everyone,
Grace hit the ball harder than anyone had ever seen. But Satan was not
worried; his center fielder let very few get by. He went up for the ball,
but
it went through his glove, hit him on the head and sent him crashing on the
ground; then
continued over the fence for a home run.
The Lord's team won. The Lord then asked Bob if he knew why Love, Faith
and
Godly Wisdom could get on base but could not win the game.
Bob answered that he did not know why.
The Lord explained, "If your love, faith and wisdom had won the game you
would think you had done it by yourself. Love, faith and wisdom will get you
on base, but only My Grace can get you home."

The Parable of the Spoons

A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said, "Lord, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like. "The Lord led the holy man to two doors. He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew which smelled delicious and made the holy man's mouth water. The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished. They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful, but because the handle was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths. The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering. The Lord said, "You have seen Hell." They went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one. There was the large round table with the large pot of
stew which made the holy man's mouth water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, "I don't understand." It is simple" said the Lord, "it requires but one skill. You see, they have learned to feed each other. While the greedy think only of themselves. "A friend is someone who reaches for your hand, and touches your heart." "People say true friends must always hold hands, but true friends don't need to hold hands because they know the other hand will always be there...." ---Unknown

How To Plant A Garden!
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FOR THE GARDEN OF YOUR DAILY LIVING
PLANT THREE ROWS OF PEAS:
1. Peace of mind
2. Peace of heart
3. Peace of soul
PLANT FOUR ROWS OF SQUASH:
1. Squash gossip
2. Squash indifference
3. Squash grumbling
4. Squash selfishness
PLANT FOUR ROWS OF LETTUCE:
1. Lettuce be faithful
2. Lettuce be kind
3. Lettuce be patient
4. Lettuce really love one another
NO GARDEN WITHOUT TURNIPS:
1. Turnip for meetings
2. Turnip for service
3. Turnip to help one another
TO CONCLUDE OUR GARDEN WE MUST HAVE THYME:
1. Thyme for each other
2. Thyme for family
3. Thyme for friends
4. Thyme for yourself.
WATER FREELY WITH PATIENCE AND CULTIVATE WITH LOVE
THERE IS MUCH FRUIT IN YOUR GARDEN BECAUSE YOU REAP
WHAT YOU SOW.
. . . Pass it on!!!!
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Dori,

I am well aware of the weight problems with Lyrica, especially the midnight munchies! I have that under control and hope that my new exercise program will help with weight loss (pre Lyrica)(Icall it "baby fat" and my baby is 38) and appitite control.

There are a gazillion types of tomatoe plants out there. For slicing Beefsteak are good, for salads I love grape tomatoes and for general use Romas are good as they are very fleshy with little juice and few seeds.

One you get "hooked" I'll tell you about heirloom tomatoes. LOL
Beating Heart , Big Hug Big Hug ,& 3 Kisses ,
Lynn
[LINK]

I am on the Duregisic patch. the 50 mcg hour. I never need my
breakthru pain meds Between the patch and the Stimulator I am at a
level 3 pain. Well group i am off to go on vacation to the beach.
ocean city md I will have my laptop so I will try to post. Mike owner

June until November, the official hurricane season, its citizens remain on
the alert for bad weather conditions. Those living in the coastal areas are
particularly attentive to the daily weather forecasts.
frightening. I remember watching in amazement during the first one I
witnessed. The wind blew so hard that the palm trees in front of my
apartment bowed low enough for their fronds to nearly touch the ground. The
lightning flashed threateningly. The rain came down in torrents.
His disciples in the boat (see Mark 4) and imagined how much more fearful it
would have been to be at sea in a boat during such an event than it was to
be inside a house. I think I got at least an inkling of the terror the
disciples experienced.
adversity caused me to doubt and almost lose my trust in the Lord. At those
times--times when family crises seemed endless, when best friends turned
their backs, when I lost my job for doing what was right--I feared I would
drown in a sea of despair. The source of these winds was not a natural storm
that came from the heavens but one that raged in my body, soul and spirit
when doubts and anxieties tried to overtake me.
you; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow you. When you walk
through the fire, you shall not be burned, nor shall the flame scorch you"
(NKJV). This promise follows God's admonition in verse 1 to "fear not."
difficult circumstance we are facing, because He will always carry us
through the storm. All we have to do is keep our eyes on Him.
Peter kept looking at Jesus, he stayed afloat. But as soon as he looked at
the predicament he was in and allowed fear to grip his heart, he began to
sink. He forfeited his opportunity to set the world's record for walking on
water! Even in the midst of his failure, however, the Lord rescued him, just
as He does us.
in that boat, quaking in fear, "He arose and rebuked the wind, and said to
the sea, 'Peace, be still!' And the wind ceased and there was a great calm"
(Mark 4:39). The disciples were amazed that "even the wind and the sea
obey[ed] Him" (v. 41). They had never seen anything like that! But we who
know His power can rest assured that He is mightier than any storm the devil
stirs up around us.
You are from everlasting. The floods have lifted up, O Lord, the floods have
lifted up their voice; the floods lift up their waves. [But] the Lord on
high is mightier than the noise of many waters, than the mighty waves of the
sea." Try meditating on these verses the next time you find yourself in a
rickety boat on raging waters!

A POSITIVE THOUGHT
If God had a refrigerator, your picture would be on it.
If He had a wallet, Your photo would be in it.
He sends you flowers every spring and a sunrise every morning.
Whenever you want to talk, He'll listen.
He could live anywhere in the universe, and He chose your heart.
Face it, He's crazy about you.
Send this to the people you're crazy about.
I thought this was pretty special, just like you Pass this on and brighten
someone's day, and remember:
God answers Knee-Mail!

This is a beautiful prayer I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I did.
Once you finish reading this prayer, don't forget to increase the number
in the subject line before forwarding it to another person.
God bless you, Good day to you.
Dear Lord,
I thank You for this day. I Thank You for my being able to see and to
hear this morning.
I'm blessed because You are a loving and an understanding God.
You have done so much for me and You keep on blessing me.
Forgive me this day for ways I have ignored your blessings or hurt others.
I ask now for Your forgiveness. Keep me safe from all danger and harm.
Let me start this day with a new attitude and plenty of gratitude. Let me
make the best of each and every day and give my best in all that is put
before me.
Clear my mind so that I can hear from You. Broaden my mind so that I can
accept all things. Let me not whine and whimper about things over which I
have no control. Let me continue to see sin through God's eyes and know it
as missing the mark.
When I sin, let me repent, and make amends for any harm I've done, And
receive the forgiveness of God and whoever I have harmed with my careless
deeds.
And when this world closes in on me, let me remember Jesus' example - to
slip away and find a quiet place to pray. It's the best response when I'm
pushed beyond my limits.
I know that when I can't pray, You listen to my heart.
Continue to use me to do Thy Will. Continue to bless me that I may be
blessing to others.
Keep me strong that I may help the weak and weary.
Keep me uplifted that I may have words of encouragement for others.
I pray for those who are lost and can't find their way.
I pray for those who are misjudged and misunderstood.
I pray for those who don't know You intimately.
I pray for those who will only read this and not share it with others.
I pray for those who don't believe.
I pray for all my sisters and brothers.
I pray for each and every family member in their households.
I pray for peace, love and joy in their homes.
I pray that they are out of debt and that all their needs are met.
I believe that You love me and care for each and every one of your
children eternally.
I believe that You change people and work wonders in the events and
affairs of our lives.
I believe that every battle is in Your hands for You to fight.
I believe that every challenge I face is You saying to me,
"Come unto me, all you who are weary, and I will give you rest."
I believe that every harsh event in my life is You saying to me,
"Love ME with all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul, And
love your neighbor as yourself."
I pray that these words be received into the hearts of everyone who reads
them, I pray that everyone who prays this prayer be blessed beyond
measure.
This is my prayer. In Jesus Name, Amen.
If you are one of the people who stand in agreement with this prayer and
prayed this prayer, change the number in the subject box before
forwarding the message so everyone can SEE how many people have joined in
this prayer.
WHISPER A PRAYER IN THE MORNING
WHISPER A PRAYER AT NOON
WHISPER A PRAYER IN THE EVENING
TO KEEP YOUR HEART IN TUNE.
HE LISTENS FOR OUR WHISPERS

The Ant
Anonymous
*********************************
Brenda was a young woman that wanted to learn to go rock climbing. Although
she was scared to death she went with a group and they faced this tremendous
cliff of rock--practically perpendicular. In spite of her fear,
she put on the gear, took a hold of the rope and started up the face of that
rock.
She got to a ledge where she could take a breather. As she was hanging on,
whoever was holding the rope up at the top of the cliff made a mistake and
snapped the rope against Brenda's eye and knocked out her contact lens.
You know how tiny contact lenses are and how almost impossible to find.
Well, here she is on a rock ledge, with who knows how many hundreds of feet
behind and hundreds of feet above her. Of course, she looked and looked and
looked, hoping that she would be able to find that contact lens. Here she
was, very far from home. Her sight was now blurry. She was very upset by the
fact that she wouldn't be anywhere near a place where she could get a new
contact lens. And she prayed that the Lord would help her to find it.
Her last hope was that perhaps when she got to the top of the cliff, one of
the girls that was up there on the top might be able to find her contact
lens in the corner of her eye. When she got to the top, a friend examined
her eye. There was no contact lens to be found. She sat down with the rest
of the party, waiting for the rest of them to come up the face of the cliff.
She looked out across range after range of mountains, thinking of that Bible
verse that says, "The eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole
earth." She thought, "Lord,You can see all these mountains. You know every
single stone and leaf that's on those mountains and You know exactly where
my contact lens is."
Finally, the time came when it was time to go down. They walked down the
trail to the bottom. Just as they got there, there was a new party of rock
climbers coming along. As one of them started up the face of the cliff,
she shouted out, "Hey, you guys! anybody lose a contact lens?"
Well, that would be startling enough, wouldn't it? She had found the contact
lens! But you know why she saw it? An ant was carrying that contact lens so
that it was moving slowly across the face of the rock.
What does that tell you about the God of the universe? Is He in charge of
the tiniest things? Do ants matter to Him? Of course they do. He made them.
He designed them.
Brenda told me that her father is a cartoonist.When she told him this
incredible story, he drew a picture of that ant lugging that contact lens
with the words "Lord, I don't know why You want me to carry this thing. I
can't eat it and it's awfully heavy. But if this is what You want me to do,
I'll carry it for You." If God is in charge of the ants, don't you think He
cares about you and me? I guess Solomon was right. One could learn a
valuable lesson from that ant - trust in God. We could probably all say a
little more often, "God, I don't know why you want me
to carry this load. I see no good in it and it's awfully heavy. Still, if
you want me to, I'll carry it for You."
**********************************
Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest. (Proverbs 6:6-8)

I thought this was really beautiful! I hope you enjoy

Goodbye Christie. We'll miss you

{\o/}
/_\ Mary J

Hi Joni, Please forgive me for butting in, but, I used to take Neurontin. I had no side effects what-so-ever. My doctor put it on me because of my fibro and because it also works as a mood stabilizer. I did not have hair loss or anything. No seizure activity either. I don't like taking meds either, but unfortunately, I have found more and more often that I need to do so. I went off of Neurontin when i was hospitalized a few years ago for unrelated problems. That was the one med that I forgot to tell them that I was on, and when I got out of the hospital, I ran out, and just never had it refilled. My doctor said that so long as I didn't feel as if I needed it any longer then that would be fine. I've not needed it again since. I hope this has helped you in some way. by the way, has anyone tried to use a tanning bed for their muscle pain and spasms due to fms? I started about a year ago. I was in a wheelchair at the time, and three days after, I was out. I recently
suffered from a virus that has caused damage to my liver. Because of this, I am quite tired and haven't felt like going to tan. This has caused me to regress, an I am now back in the wheelchair. Last week my husband forced me to go tanning about four days in a row. I had two very good days, and was out of the wheelchair for those days because of it. maybe it will help someone else as well. I know that as soon as I am feeling a bit better, i will be tanning again daily. not only does it help me physically, but self-esteem wise as well. And, I have definately struggled with self-esteem since being in the chair. God Bless you all, and good night. Shay

Betty there are many different types of tomato plants too. Which ones do you plant?

HI, CHRIS!
IT SEEMS THAT THIS DR NO LONGER WANTS TO DO ANY FURTHER SURGERY ON YOU.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY TO GET A SECOND OPIONION FROM ANOTHER NEW NEURSURGEON.
THIS IS WHAT I DID. THE DR WHO DID MY FIRST AND SECOND STIM, NO LONGER
WANTED TO DO ANY MORE WORK, AS IT WAS A HOPELESS CASE....HIS WORDS...NOT
MINE....NO DR SHOULD EVER SAY HOPELESS!!!!!
MAYBE ANOTHER SURGEON WOULD BE ABLE AND WILLING TO HELP YOU OUT.
I HAVE HAD RSD NOW FOR 25 YEARS. I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION AND PAIN.
HANG IN!!!!
KATHY
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hi ladies
the time has come for me to say goodbye, but I need to pass the moderator duties
ont o someone who is sticking around for awhile. I hate to see the group break
up, but the Lord has spoken to me aobut my priorities and my ministries, and
this is one that needs to be handed over to someone else now. It isn't a major
job, just post topics of discussion every now and then, maybe a bible study ot
two....you can change the description and even the focus of the group.
Please email me privately if you are interested, as I am no longer receiving
mail from this group.
Hope you are well, and I will continue to keep you and the list in my prayers.
==
with love in Him,
Christy
Proverbs 31:13
"She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly with her hands"
Matthew 25:40
"...inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these My brethren, ye have
done it also unto me."
new websites coming soon! o/` (me waving)

I was also wondering about the drug neurontin, that you just
mentioned, my doctor, a neurologist, just wrote out that perscription
that you were talking about for me very recently. But I had heard
that the side effects can be really serious from taking that drug and
that had me concerned. Most of them went along with epilepsy, those
type of symptoms I mean, and those kinds of side effects concerned me
greatly. I am thinking maybe this is one type of condition that this
drug was used for and thats why they talked about those kinds of side
effects so much. I dont know, but I dont have epilepsy, but I
understand that they use different drugs for different types of
problems now. The other thing I heard was that it caused severe hair
loss? Let me know if it is helping you. My neurologist wants to put
me on it for headaches and nerve pain, the myofacial type pain.
Nothing seems to help that type of pain so far. He thinks that this
drug is a good choice. I really dont like taking medicine if I can
help it. I will when I have to though. I feel like I am already
taking so much. Take Care, Joni

Dear Dori and All,

It is great to be back! I missed you all so much.

In truth Harry wasn't 100% the bad guy, you might say that the was the aggravating factor to my getting rid of the net. It is true that he is a Ludite and couldn't see any good that came from the internet, he still can't understand how I can get ten, IMAGINE THAT THE, e-mails in one day!!! ROTFLMAO, at lest now I can laugh. At the time it was pretty tense around here.

Another part of it was that I had become addicted to the net and, as with me any any addiction, I had to go "cold turkey". I now feel that I can control it and so I am back.

As I said, I am back but am limiting the number of people who know that as I have limited mailbox space.

I don't know if all of you know that I took myself off of Percocet and Temazapam. NOT AT THE SAME TIME, i MAY BE CRAZY, BUT I'M NOT DUMB! I have been on lyrica since September and feel great. I still have "flares" that involve all of the other symptoms, but the pain is manageable and I can, mentally, handle all of the other baggage, by telling myself "This, too, shall pass.". That was my mom's mantra and I have lived by it for years. I have bought a year pool pass and take part in water aerobics. I am going to TRY to be better about attendance this session. As a matter of fact I am going up, on my own, when I am done here.

My lawyer assures me that we will be going to trial some time this year...the magic seventh year. Why is seven years the usual time frame? Right now I lump oil companies and lawyers in the same category. They are all in cahoots,each with their own species!

Dori, HOW GREAT! Forty-one pounds, do you realize that that is one pound shy of 14 cans of Crisco. Go to the supermarket and stack that up in the aisle and dance a jig around it! When you reach your goal, dance around it naked! And a job to boot. How proud you must be of yourself! And being proud of ones self is a lot different than being "full" of ones self.

Well, enough for now. Everyone else, bring me up to speed, please.

Beating Heart , Big Hug Big Hug ,& 3 Kisses ,
Lynn
[LINK]

thanks Pat. I will keep you all updated on how things go.

Hi Joni,
Welcome! Our list is very quiet, but maybe we can change that. You and
Shay are both new here. I know what you mean about "looking fine" It can be
frustrating, Christy, who started this list, always says we should have a
fake cast that we could put on when we are having a bad day so that our
family knows it. Joni, have you called your local hospitals to see if there
are any support groups? That might be encouraging to you. I recently
(reluctantly) joined one and it is full of great "survival tips" also My
husband just finished reading a book (I got from the local library and left
in the bathroom) called "The Fibromyalgia Supporter" by Dr. Mark
Pellegrino. He is not only a doctor but also has FMS! he has written other
books for people with FMS, but felt the need to write a book to the families
of someone with FMS. IF you cannot find the book, let me know because I can
photocopy the orderform for you. Also I can send you a copy of an article
about dealing with headaches that I just got from my FMS support group. One
of the interesting things that way said about headaches at this months
meeting was, put a cold compress on your head and your hands or feet in warm
water. Also drinking tomato juice is supposed to help. This somehow opens
constricted blood vessels to the head elevating the pain. I have not tried
these but will, I have had a headache for over a year and do get migraine. I
have recently begun taking Nuerontin and one of the side effects are a
substantial improvement in headache pain relief. So I am praying!!! Joni, I
just stopped and said a prayer for you! Please write when you feel
discouraged, I know we all have days where we feel like only someone with FMS
understands. But we also have a loving compassionate God who in his Mercy
knows our pain and will work through it in our lives! Have you visited Fibro
hugs website?? I pray you have a good week. Spring is coming!!! then summer
Yipee! warmer weather usually means less pain, I can hardly wait!!!
Have a blessed day!
dina (Job 19:25-27)
In a message dated 3/15/01 3:26:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ScarecrowsAmanda@... writes:
<< Hello everyone,
I just joined this group and wanted to introduce myself. My name is
Joni and I have had fibromyalgia for 12 years now. I am 42 yrs old,
married and have one son, a teenager. Mine all started from trauma, a
car accident actually seemed to trigger it. Since then unfortunately
I have been in three other car wrecks, none of them my fault. Cant
even remember what it feels like anymore to be pain free and to feel
good. Seems like I have been in a bad flare for awhile now. Like so
many people with fibro I also have other conditions that can go along
with the fibro itself like the myofacial pain syndrome, tmj,
migraines, tension headaches and two herniated disks and of course
fatigue. I am trying to work full time but am not doing well at it,
by that I mean it is hard to be there everyday, full time, when not
feeling well. I guess the pain is the hardest part of everything.
With these disk problems my pain is always at least a six on a good
day on a scale of one to ten. Unfortunately I dont have family that
is supportive. They look at me and say, well you look okay, you dont
look like anything is wrong with you, but that is the thing with
fibro, from the outside alot of times you cant tell if someone is
hurting or feeling bad, unless they tell you of course. Just
wondering if anyone has any ideas of things that can help with
headaches and constant pain? I try the hot showers but
it doesnt seem to help that much. Hope to meet everyone, take care.

Hi everyone,
Just wanted to introduce myself......my name is Chris, I am 45,
married
with 3 children and I have had my SCS since 2000....boy was I glad to
see that there was a group online with others who have one of
these.....
I orginally got my SCS for sciatic nerve damage caused by surgical
scar
tissue.....my first one was implanted in 2000 for coverage on my
right
side....this worked great for me as I went almost a yr without having
to take any pain meds at all, but in 2001 I required a fusion at L4-5
and shortly afterwards my pain returned but this time also on the
left
side. Unfortunately for me the neurosurgeon that placed my original
one was no longer in the state I live in so I had to go looking for
another...which as I am sure many of you know is not exactly an easy
thing. I went to the local pain clinic and after going through all
the
various procedures that never worked for me and fianally because my
battery was depleted they referred me to a neurosurgeon that did
implants in my area....he ended up doing a complete revision and
after
two surgeries I had a new system implanted but only with the same
coverage I had orginally....one good thing came from it was that I
became friends with the Medtronic rep and through her I found out
that
my original neurosurgeon was returning to practice in MA....I got
myself one of the first appointments he had and a short time later he
revised my lead for me and got me better coverage for my other
side....six months later he changed out my system for me to a
rechargable one because I managed to deplete a 5 yr battery in 9
months
time.
Right now things have not been too good with my system.....my
coverage on my left side is all but gone and my neurosurgon doesn't
want to go in and change out my lead....he said that because of the
several times that they have been in that one area it was not an
option because of my scar tissue problems....he thinks that is what
is causing the issue with my coverage at this point....he left it
open as a possibility if something new in the way of leads come out
but he did not want to do anything at that point (the last time we
discussed it was about a yr ago now) and he referred me off to the
pain clinic again....my dr at the pain clinic put me through being a
medication guinea pig with no luck in that department, leaving me
with being on my same pain meds and muscle relaxants I had already
been on and the little coverage that I still have with my SCS....he
thinks that I should have my lead changed out but I have the problem
that no one will touch it because the surgeon that I have is one of
the best in the field and anyone else that I go to would say if he is
not willing to do it there must be a good reason (tried once to get
another opinion)
I was wondering if anyone here has had a similar issue where your
coverage have lessened over time? If so did they do anything to fix
it? Including the original lead placement they have been in that
area 4 time over the last 8 yrs, once to replace the lead and twice
more to adjust it with the last time being March of 05. I was
considering writing my dr a letter laying out everything to see if he
would consider trying again but I do not know how that would be
received...the last time we discussed it I got what I felt were a lot
of excuses for not trying it, like the risk of infection, the
possibility that I would come out with even less coverage then I
already have....all which doesn't seem like they are too bad
considering how it is right now....I look at it from the point of
view that it is now doing me much good the way that it is right now
so why not try....
Well any info that you may be able to send my way would be
appreciated! I look forward to being a member of this group!
Chris C.

Dori

That is great to hear you have lost and off most of meds. I hope that you can continue that way. That job sounds wonderful to be able to work even part time is a blessing. I pray that you do go into remission.

Hugs Pat

On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:51:50 EST TheAnneGirl@... writes:

Hi Dina. Yes, I saw that there were a little over fifty people on this
list, but it does look as if it's been very quiet. Oh wow...I used to be
such a clean freak, now I feel like just a freak!! My house is never clean
anymore. The wheelchair prohibits most of my cleaning. My husband cooks,
cleans and works, and still makes the time to be a wonderful husband,
father, and friend. God has truly blessed me. I just don't know how people
deal with life without Him. Especially a life filled with physical pain and
emotion turmoil, such as we go through with fms. God Bless You all. Shay

Lynn do you really have to ask if you can rejoin????????????????????????????????????????????

Shame Shame Shame to not already know that your sisters are standing with arms outstretched to hug and welcome you home.

Hugs

Dori

Hello everyone,
I just joined this group and wanted to introduce myself. My name is
Joni and I have had fibromyalgia for 12 years now. I am 42 yrs old,
married and have one son, a teenager. Mine all started from trauma, a
car accident actually seemed to trigger it. Since then unfortunately
I have been in three other car wrecks, none of them my fault. Cant
even remember what it feels like anymore to be pain free and to feel
good. Seems like I have been in a bad flare for awhile now. Like so
many people with fibro I also have other conditions that can go along
with the fibro itself like the myofacial pain syndrome, tmj,
migraines, tension headaches and two herniated disks and of course
fatigue. I am trying to work full time but am not doing well at it,
by that I mean it is hard to be there everyday, full time, when not
feeling well. I guess the pain is the hardest part of everything.
With these disk problems my pain is always at least a six on a good
day on a scale of one to ten. Unfortunately I dont have family that
is supportive. They look at me and say, well you look okay, you dont
look like anything is wrong with you, but that is the thing with
fibro, from the outside alot of times you cant tell if someone is
hurting or feeling bad, unless they tell you of course. Just
wondering if anyone has any ideas of things that can help with
headaches and constant pain? I try the hot showers but
it doesnt seem to help that much. Hope to meet everyone, take care.

Hi Shay!
Welcome! The list has been very quiet lately, so I am not sure what is

Glad that you enjoyed your trip Pat.

Hope the birthday party was a success and that it didn't overtire you.

Love

Dori

Pat,

Do the cleanup a little bit at a time. Remember to pace yourself and take care of Pat. Nobody really cares how clean your house is anyway and if they do, tell them to clean it. LOL That is what I do anyway. I ask if they came to see me or my house and what kind of housekeeper I am these days. LOL

Hi all. My name is Shay. I was diagnosed with FMS eight years ago. I'm 29 and a mother of two. I am happily mmarried to my high school and present day sweetheart, Greg. He is so supportive, so although I have to bear this burden, God has allowed me some wonderfu support. God is so good. I look forward to hearing form you all. Shay

Oh my goodness!!!! Welcome Back Lynn!!!

You have been so missed!!!

I am so glad that you decided to come back on line. You tell Harry that I will have to come down there and hurt him if you leave us again. LOL

In all seriousness, sister friend, update us on what you have been up to. I believe that you and Betty and Lynda stayed in touch via telephone?

I have been through the gastric bypass surgery that I had been speaking of for quite some time. I had it on Feb.13th and have lost 41 lbs so far. The greatest news is that I am after seeing doctors the last couple weeks, off ALL my meds except my extended release morphine. And that is being taken at half the dosage I was before the surgery.

We are going to see how I do and if necessary will add back whatever is necessary.

I have to admit that I feel so much better lately and hope that this is a start to remission?

I am also going to be starting to train for a job that I can do out of my own home. I will be listening to recorded customer service calls for a company and filling out reports on the employees' handling of the call. I haven't worked in 6 years and can only hope that this works out for me. It is only part-time and based on what I have been told so far, if I need to rest I can. We will see. A lot of companies tell you one thing in the hiring process and then when the job begins things slowly begin to change.

Gosh this just made my night to see you back here.

Can't wait to hear your update.

Love ya,

Dori

Good morning everyone!
I have not been getting any emails, are we still here?
I have written to Christy, but have not gotten a response.
I just wanted to know if the group was still active and maybe I am
the only one not getting emails.
I hope all is well.
God Bless you!
In His Love,
Dina \O/

YEA!! Lynn's back. That make's my day. You've been missed so much Lynn. I am so glad your back - I love you Sis. Lynda [INLINE]

Just FYI, if anyone else is using RoadRunner cable internet access
they have blocked all their customers from receiving mail

Philippians 4:13 -- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
The road to success is not straight. There is a curve called Failure, A loop
called Confusion, speed bumps called Friends, red lights called Enemies,
caution lights called Family. You will have flats called Jobs.
But, if you have a spare called Determination, an engine called
Perseverance, insurance called Faith, a driver called Jesus, you will make
it to a place called Success. Pass it on to ten people whom you want to see
blessed. Don't forget to send it back to the one who sent it to you.
May God continue to bless you.

Well,it looks like I am back! May I rejoin the group? All I ask is that you limit your forwards, as I have limited mailbox space.
Beating Heart , Big Hug Big Hug ,& 3 Kisses ,
Lynn
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Hi Betty,

Maybe the Bride's family will host a party for them. It would be too much for you to do on your own.

Where in AZ do you live? I love the desert.

Hugs Pat

Subject: Don't Go To Bed....
Don't Go To Bed....
I've heard it said don't go to bed
while hanging on to sorrow,
you may not have the chance to laugh
with those you love tomorrow.
You may not mean the words you speak
when anger takes its toll,
you may regret your actions
once you've lost your self control.
When you've lost your temper
and you've said some hurtful things,
think about the heartache
that your actions sometime bring.
You'll never get those moments back,
such precious time to waste,
and all because of things you said
in anger and in haste.
So if you're loving someone
and your pride has settled in,
you may not ever have the chance
to say to them again...
"I love you and I miss you
and although we don't agree,
I'll try to see your point of view,
please do the same for me."
Author Unknown

Subject: Words to Live By
~~~~~~Read Slowly & Think Long on Each Sentence~~~~~~~~~
Love starts with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a tear.
Don't cry over anyone who won't cry over you
If love isn't a game, why are there so many players?
Good friends are hard to find, harder to leave, and impossible to
forget.
You can only go as far as you push.
Actions speak louder than words.
The hardest thing to do is watch the one you love, love somebody else.
Don't let the past hold you back, you're missing the good stuff.
Life's short. If you don't look around once in a while you might miss
it.
A BEST FRIEND is like a four leaf clover, HARD TO FIND and LUCKY TO
HAVE
Some people make the world SPECIAL just by being in it.
BEST FRIENDS are the siblings God forgot to give us
When it hurts to look back, and you're scared to look ahead, you can
look
beside you and your BEST FRIEND will be there.
TRUE FRIENDSHIP "NEVER" ENDS.
Friends are FOREVER
Good friends are like stars....You don't always see them, but you know =
they are always there.
Don't frown. You never know who is falling in love with your smile.
What do you do when the only person who can make you stop crying is
the person who made you cry?
Nobody is perfect until you fall in love with them.
Everything is okay in the end. If it's not okay, then it's not the
end.
Most people walk in and out of you life, but only friends leave
footprints
in your heart.
Send this on to everyone special in your life, even the people who
really
make you mad sometimes and to the people whose lives you want to be
in!!!
And send it back to the person who sent it too you if they mean
something
to you !!
Remember, every minute spent angry is sixty seconds of happiness
wasted.
Don't be angry, BE HAPPY!!!

Denise,
I also have rsd. I was diagnosed at the age of 12, I am now 27. I
have three stimulators, one spinal and two peripheral. They provide
some relief for the rsd pain, by no means do they get rid of it but
they help take the edge off. As you know with rsd any pain relief no
matter how minor it is, is a blessing. There are days when they work
more and days when they don't provide as much relief. Anyway, you
asked about infections - I had a staph infection in 1999, now
whenever I have surgery I am given an antibiotics beforehand like
normal but I'm also admitted into the hospital for 48 hours of post-op
iv antibiotics, then when I go home I continue the course for a week.
I have had no problems with infections since they have started taking
these precautions, including after my scs surgery. Just so you know
once you have a stimulator (if you choose to get one) most doctors
recommend that when you go to the dentist or have a procedure done
like an endoscopy-especially for the first year!!!! That you pre-
medicate with one dose of antibiotics). I hope this could be of some
help to you.
Good luck.
Jaci

Hi Lynda,

No I didn't have to cook at least, It was just having them all here and now to clean up the bathrooms, sweep etc.

Hugs Pat

Christy:
Thank you for sharing your story about mental health issues. There are
more people disabled by mental health problems than physical problems in
my opinion. Unfortunately, most of them are afraid to acknowledge the
situation and therefore go untreated. Let me share just a bit of my
story now that you opened the gates.
December 3, 1995 I was traveling home from church. Had just gotten my
car. I was on a busy main street in my town with 4 lanes of traffic.
It was a winter evening so it was already dark. Unfortunately, a drunk
man tried to crawl across the street. Because of the glare of on-coming
lights, I didn't see him until it was too late to even get my car
stopped. The person behind me hit him too.
I've lived with depression ever since that awful night. Once in a while
my anti-depression has to bwe changed because I build up an immunity to
it. I'm wondering if that is needed right now and will be asking a
doctor about it next week. My arthritis specialist told me my pain
level is greatly magnified when I am depressed. It becomes a vicious
circle. I get depressed, then I start hurting worse, then the
depression gets worse and so on until medication is able to break the
cycle for me.
I want to encourage everyone on the list to not be afraid to mention
mental health issues. i've learned not to be embarrassed. In fact, as
I shared several weeks ago, being forced to stop working meant my life
long dream of writing books has come true.
God can take your lemons and turn them into lemonade if we reach out and
are honest with ourselves and each other.
God Bless you Christy!
--
Diana Pederson, Ingham County, Michigan, Zone 5, United States
Landscape designer and Garden Writer
http://www.enabling-gardens.com/
Receive information about my upcoming book:
http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/bibleplants

You are right about diet, it has a major role with rsd.I try to eat all
organic,drink water all the time.I feel like Whole Foods Market sometimes.Thanks
Denise
KGAVI@... wrote: HEY DENISE...WOULD YOU POSSIBLY CONSIDER THE
INTRATHECAL PAIN PUMP? THIS
HELPS MANY PEOPLE ALSO. I HAD ONE AND THE ONLY REASON IT DIDN'T HELP ME IS
BECAUSE MY RSD IS EXTREMELY SEVERE....IT CERTAINLY DID HELP THOUGH WHEN THE
SPASMS WOULD HIT....THE DR WOULD FILL IT WITH MEDS TO STOP THEM....THAT WAS LIKE
A MIRACLE.
GOOD LUCK!
KATHY
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He is
He is the First and Last, the Beginning and the End!
He is the keeper of Creation and the Creator of all!
He is the Architect of the universe and
The Manager of all times.
He always was, He always is, and He always will be...
Unmoved, Unchanged, Undefeated, and never Undone!
He was bruised and brought healing!
He was pierced and eased pain!
He was persecuted and brought freedom!
He was dead and brought life!
He is risen and brings power!
He reigns and brings Peace!
The world can't understand him,
The armies can't defeat Him,
The schools can't explain Him, and
The leaders can't ignore Him.
Herod couldn't kill Him,
The Pharisees couldn't confuse Him, and
The people couldn't hold Him!
Nero couldn't crush Him,
Hitler couldn't silence Him,
The New Age can't replace Him, and
Donahue can't explain Him away!
He is light, love, longevity, and Lord.
He is goodness, Kindness, Gentleness, and God.
He is Holy, Righteous, mighty, powerful, and pure.
His ways are right,
His word is eternal,
His will is unchanging, and
His mind is on me.
He is my Redeemer,
He is my Savior,
He is my guide, and
He is my peace!
He is my Joy,
He is my comfort,
He is my Lord, and
He rules my life!
I serve Him because His bond is love,
His burden is light, and
His goal for me is abundant life.
I follow Him because He is the wisdom of the wise,
The power of the powerful,
The ancient of days, the ruler of rulers,
The leader of leaders, the overseer of the overcomers, and
The sovereign Lord of all that was and is and is to come.
And if that seems impressive to you, try this for size.
His goal is a relationship with ME!
He will never leave me,
Never forsake me,
Never mislead me,
Never forget me,
Never overlook me, and
Ever cancel my appointment in His appointment book!
When I fall, He lifts me up!
When I fail, He forgives!
When I am weak, He is strong!
When I am lost, He is the way!
When I am afraid, He is my courage!
When I stumble, He steadies me!
When I am hurt, He heals me!
When I am broken, He mends me!
When I am blind, He leads me!
When I am hungry, He feeds me!
When I face trials, He is with me!
When I face persecution, He shields me!
When I face problems, He comforts me!
When I face loss, He provides for me!
When I face Death, He carries me Home!
He is everything for everybody, everywhere,
Every time, and every way.
He is God, He is faithful.
I am His, and He is mine!
My Father in heaven can whip the father of this world.
So, if you're wondering why I feel so secure, understand this...
He said it and that settles it.
God is in control, I am on His side, and
That means all is well with my soul.
Everyday is a blessing for GOD Is!

One dear sister's boldness, which I feel sure was led by the Holy Spirit, raised
the very relevent issue of my recently approved social security benefits, and
the impact that my healing would have on them. There are probably others
wondering the same thing, so I thought I would share more.
I believe in passing I may have mentioned my long time with various mental
health issues and problems, but would not have emphasized them. This was pride.
God is still dealing with me about pride. I have come a long way, but obviously
have a lot farther to go. God in His almighty plan did not actually have me
approved for the SS for the physical illness. I am ashamed to admit it is pride
that kept me from sharing all of the details,or emphasising them, my approval
was actually detrmined by long-time mental health issues, which have worsened
over the past 6 years as well. I filed for the SS benefits becasue of the
FMS/MPS, and didn't want anyone to know about the other problems I have had most
of my life, too specifically. However, those are what I was approved for. God
has not chosen this moment to heal me of those other afflictions at this time,
and although PHYSICALLY I am no longer disabled, I am still very much disabled
by the mental health issues. That was confirmed after praying on the subject.
He showed me that He had the benefits approved and He knew He was going to heal
the physical illnesses at this time. That is why they were NOT approved for the
FMS/MPS.
On a related side note, I will still be the owner/moderator for Thank You Jesus
for Throns on My Roses, as I still have plenty of thorns on my roses. The mental
health issues no longer taking a back seat to the physical ailments, I am still
very much in need of the support and encouragement of my sisters. This however
does not take away any bit of joy, or excitement, or wonder at the miraculous
healing of my body.
I appreciate our sister's boldness in asking the question, thank you for
bringing this to my attention, I feel sure it was the Holy Spirit using you to
show me the error and the sin of my pride, AGAIN. Pride is an ongoing battle
for me....
God bless you all
Christy
==
Victoriana Rose Handcrafts
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/victorianarosehandcrafts

Geeze Pat, I bet you are exhausted!! 30 people is a lot to entertain!! I hope you didn't have to cook too much for all those folks. That is very stressful. You better rest up girlfriend. Love & hugs, Lynda [INLINE]

Hi Dori

We went to visit family. We went out to dinner and played some at a casino the locals go too. We had a good time, it was a busy weekend. We came home to a B day party for our Granddaughter here at our house over 30 people.

Hugs pat Ca

We need lots of 6 1/2 inch squares for comfortghans for a particular family who
has had several tragedies recently. This family has a few new Christians in it,
and several undecided and unsaved, and the squares, tagged with a note of
encouragement or a scripture would point in the right direction, and ultimately
give the glory to God. Please join with me in giving of our God given gift to
this family in need of the love and comfort of Jesus.
I think any color and design is okay, but we might want to avoid a lot of
black.....Please leave several inches of yarn for weaving in at the end. The
squares will be sc around in one color and then joined.
You may send the squares to:
Dina Phippen
733 Ogle Drive
Rio Dell, CA 95562
we may also need a volunteer or two in ataching the squares.....please let me
know if you are willing.
Thank you.
Christy aka NO MORE ouchiemama!! :-)
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Victoriana Rose Handcrafts
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/victorianarosehandcrafts

I had mine put in while weighing 270 - I should be at 185. I hope that's
helpful...
Jaron Matlow
Philadelphia, PA
They shall neither hurt or destroy in all My Holy mountain; when the earth
will be full of the knowledge of The Holy Blessed One, as the waters cover
the sea. (Isaiah 11:9)

That's wonderful Christie!! God is a good God!!

{\o/}
/_\ Mary J

Dear Christy,
I didn't get a chance to write to you on TheRefinersFire yesterday and
I see that you unsubscribed today, so thought I'd pop on over here and
tell you how happy I am to hear of your healing!!!!!! Just awesome!
We serve an awesome God, and He is ABLE to do all things.
Hallelujah!!! We Praise You GOD!!!! \0/\0/\0/
Sorry to see you go, but I can understand not wanting to be on a List
for those with Chronic Illness anymore, now that you are healed! HA HA
:o) I wish you all the best dear one and continued blessings for
your life.
In Him,
Rev. Fern
Health From a Biblical Perspective~Ladies Only

I see the neurologist monday and I am worried that he might not put one
in ...I had the trial done by my Pain management doctor and it worked
good..had it removed a week ago...but I am overweight and I am afraid
neurologist might not do it because of this...I am over weight because
of the pain I try to be active but it hurts so much and also my foot
swelled right back up...please help does anyone know if they put them
in overweight people

Pat how was the trip to Vegas? Did you see family or friends? Go to win any money?

I have relatives in Henderson and they keep begging me to come out there but it is a long way from South Dakota.

RSD friends

Dori

howdy hi!!!
gotta change my name and email addy, I am NOT Ouchie Mama! :-) yeah!!!!!!
waving my arms around, wiggling my hips!!!!!! `\o/` see? will have to do
until I get a digital `O` camera!!!!
/ \
think I will use my other ones.....(you really don't want to know how many I
have.)
VictorianaRose@... for my PERSONAL email, Christian and crochet lists
and
MistyOEngland@... for my mysteries and such
and
Matthew2540ministries@... for the ministry and it's projects
someone was asking about the bible verse that didn't seem relevent, it is
Hebrews 3:7-19
it is about hardening your hard :-(
==
Christy aka OuchieMama
Proverbs 31:13 She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly with her hands.
My Pages (Christian pages, FMS, crafts, crochet patterns, homeschooling,
recipes, aromatherapy, classic movies, Sherlock Holmes)
http://www.geocities.com/christybritain/

They often must try dozens of combinations for the stim to work and reach the
areas needed.
I just had mine revised and they test it for proper stmulation while you are
on the table. That is no fun to be awake and just a local and IV pain meds.
Then they putt me out to thread the leads from the spinal area to the generator
in the stomach.
I unfortunaley am suffering severe spinal headaches from the leakage of spinal
fluid.
Previous the two surgeris went smoothly. I am on meds for the dizziness and
10 X worse than migraine Spinal fluid headaches. The phergin ? is helping, but
my vision is so blurred-please forgive typos!
I must lay down most of each day or the headache is bursting.
My surgery was slated for 45 minutes. It actually took over 4 hours for the
oc to get it right w/the Med tch. They eere removing old leads (18 months) and
putting im new leads.
My original sim was fabulous for pain relief, then they had to relocate the
unit from my buttocks to my stomach.
After they moved it I ner got pain relief-just sever rb cage pain. They
tyried dozens of programs.
Next Tuesday they will remove my stitches from the May 22 revision. And also
program the unit. Here is hoping. On the table the test gave me lower back
stim.
Mary-Anne

Well the reason why I left the group was I took care of my granpa for
three years and he past away last july. As far as thing are with my
scs system I had it reprogramed and found out that the battery has
been 90% used which I wasn't happy about but I am glad they figured
out the problem I had a myelogram and ct cause I couldn't figure out
what as going on cause my right leg pain had come back strong. I have
learned now that to have that tested before I get the expensive
painful test done. I am pain free again and loving it. The medtronic
rep told me I have a year or less before the battery will have to be
replaced. Than I will get the rechargeable battery and that will last
9 verses 4 to five for me. I am grateful for this group and was glad
that I helped out when I did. Thanks
Sicerely,
Holly

wow Christy, what a wonderful testimony of faith. Yipee, this is so wonderful to hear that you are healed and feeling so good and walking and all the wonderful things that happened to you. PRAISE THE LORD.

You have really touched my heart here. Jesus is wonderful, God is great. Wow, what a wonderful day.

hugs,

dorothy

This is a bummer. My peonies are just beginning to sprout out of the ground. LOL

Do you all just let yours stand on their own or do you try to hold them up in some way. Mine all seem so heavy that the flowers by the time they actually bloom are laying on the ground.

!!

Subject: : Mid life TRUTHS!!
Hey, what can I say----this was too funny to pass you by........

This is great, ENJOY !

Mid life TRUTHS!!

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I can almost feel myself losing weight....by forwarding this to you!
You'll understand at the end.
I've seen two shows lately that went on and on about how mid-life is a great time for women. Just last week Oprah had a whole show on how great menopause will be... Puh leeeeeeeze! I've had a few thoughts of my own and would like to share them with you. Whether you are pushing 40, 50, 60 (or maybe even just pushing your luck) you'll probably relate.
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Mid-life is when the growth of hair on our legs slows down. This gives us plenty of time to care for our newly acquired mustache.
In mid-life women no longer have upper arms, we have wing spans. We are no longer women in sleeveless shirts, we are flying squirrels in drag.
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Mid-life is when you can stand naked in front of a mirror and you can see your rear without turning around.
Mid-life is when you go for a mammogram and you realize that this is the only time someone will ask you to appear topless.
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Mid-life is when you want to grab every firm young lovely in a tube top and scream, "Listen honey, even the Roman empire fell and those will too."
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Mid-life brings wisdom to know that life throws us curves and we're sitting on our biggest ones.
Mid-life is when you look at your-know-it-all, beeper-wearing teenager and think: "For this I have stretch marks?"
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In mid-life your memory starts to go. In fact the only thing we can retain is water.
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Mid-life means that your Body By Jake now includes Legs By Rand McNally
-- more red and blue lines than an accurately scaled map of Wisconsin.
Mid-life means that you become more reflective...You start pondering the "big" questions. What is life? Why am I here? How much Healthy choice ice cream can I eat before it's no longer a healthy choice?
But mid-life also brings with it an appreciation for what is important.
We realize that breasts sag, hips expand and chins double, but our loved ones make the journey worthwhile. Would any of you trade the knowledge that you have now, for the body you had way back when? Maybe our bodies simply have to expand to hold all the wisdom and love we've acquired. That's my philosophy and I'm sticking to it!
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Send this to four women and you will lose two pounds.
Send this to all the women you know (or ever knew), and you will lose 10 pounds.
If you delete this message, you will gain 10 pounds immediately. (That's why I had to pass this on - I didn't want to risk deleting this.)
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Praise the Lord! I am healed!!!!! I am going to tell anyone that will
listen........
The Lord has blessed me once again, and in such a HUGE way! I am
healed! I just got back from walking 2 miles.........last week and
for the previous 6 months or so, I couldn't walk more than 1/2 a
block even with my 4 pronged cane! There is no pain in my hips, my
legs, my back, my neck, my arms.......you can poke me in the upper
arms and while it is still sore, it is not the excruciating pain.
During the night, I yawned a lot, just kept yawning over and over
again. I yawned so much it kept me awake! Then, there would be
little popping sensations all over my body, and I could feel the
muscles start to relax. I have no KNOTS anywhere! I can feel where
there used to be probably hundreds of them, and there isn't a single
one! I could not lift my hands higher than my shoulders without
pain, and I could not raise my elbows above my shoulders, the muscles
were so tight and gnarled and shortened . Now, I wish you could see
me, my hands are way over my head and I am waving them both
frantically, without any pain whatsoever. I wore shoes that tied on
instead of slipped on today for the first time in almost a
year.......I couldn't bend over to tie my shoes. I drank soda from a
can without a straw. have been using a straw in glasses and soda cans
for over a year because of the pain and stiffness in my neck, I
couldn't tilt my head back. This so wonderful! I am completely FMS,
MPS symptom free after over 8 years of flare after flare after flare!
I guess I should back up a little here.........I always knew that God
COULD heal me, and I fully believe that he used my illness to make me
grow spiritually and used it for good as promised in the bible. I was
waiting. Unlike some prayers that he has answered with `yes, but
wait`.........for this prayer request it was just `wait`. So I
waited, and waited........Then on Sunday, the pastor and elders of my
church laid hands on me and anointed me with oil as directed in James.
I realized a little while ago during a bible study, that I am already
healed at some point in time, whether it be in this life or the next.
Weeping lasts for a night, but joy comes in the morning. Well, the
morning could be at the beginning of the next life., or it could be
THIS morning. (Read the book guys, we win! That includes our health.)
I had a word of knowledge shared with me by my pastor, that the Lord
had healing for me........cool! So I waited and waited some more.
Nothing happened. The pastor gave my hubby some bible verses for me to
read and I didn't quite understand one of them. I talked to him and
then went and took a shower and prayed. I always seem to do my most
contrite praying in the shower, I can talk out loud and no one can
hear me. It is pretty humbling to pray in the shower. I spoke some
more to my pastor, and prayed some more......and little by little
things would make sense. I was still waiting for something that was
now already there.......AND IT CLICKED IN MY LITTLE TINY PEA
BRAIN........I had always believed he COULD, now He was waiting for me
to believe He WOULD. Please don't misunderstand this part, it is very
important. God did not need my help with this healing, He did not
need my permission........He WANTED my FAITH. And then a correlation
between this healing and salvation hit me...........just as believing
in Jesus Christ is not enough for salvation, (remember Satan believes
in the Lord and shudders at the thought of Him, but he isn't
saved.......) nor was just believing that He would heal me. So what
did I have to do?? I thought again of the plan of
salvation..........I must ACCEPT it! AH! Just like the gift of
salvation...it is personal, it had my name on it, it was for
me......but I had to reach out and accept the gift of healing as I had
accepted the gift of salvation. Next? What is next in salvation?
Confess it, and thank Him. So, yesterday afternoon I began by
thanking Him for the healing, and reminding myself that is was already
done. I started to reach for the pain medication and WHACK! Another
2x4 upside my head.........I needed to ACT on FAITH. There was a
lady in the New Testament that believed that she could be healed of a
long time affliction if she could just touch the hem of Jesus'
garment......she was healed. It was not the fact that she touched the
garment, it was that she believed AND ACTED in FAITH. I didn't take
my medicine last night. I don't need the sleep medication nor the
muscle relaxants nor the 4 different kinds of pain pills anymore. I
yawn all night, feel little popping sensations like the knots
exploding, and today I get up and walk 2 miles. This is a MIRACLE!
The promise of God to use all things for good is true, and he did. He
used this illness mightily in my life as well as in others lives.
When He was done with it, and was ready to heal me, he gave someone a
word for me and provided scriptures that seemed irrelevant. But, with
prayer and thought and bible study, and more prayer, He revealed to me
the truth of my needing to not only believe it was possible, but that
it was done, accept it, confess it, thank Him and praise Him for it,
and finally ACT on FAITH. Faith is not believing JUST that He can, it
is believing that He will. If the Lord tells you or someone else that
He will heal you, he not only will, it is finished! (Which by the
way, is an expression Jesus' used on the cross, and although to us it
sounds like a cry of relief, the Greek word is actually used as a
victory cry!)

Dear Sisters,
I mostly just read and pray, but today I sadly must beg for your prayers!
There is a family the Lord has brought into our lives that needs your
prayers. My husband Paul who is a Pastor, felt God calling us to start a
midweek bible study in the town we live in, but a different town then our
church is in. Our goal is to minister to those in the town struggling, and
who will come to an informal bible study to hear the word, but shy away from
a traditional church setting. We have a wonderful couple who is ministering
with us, He is our worship leader, their names are Lenny & Sam (the wife is
Sam). Yesterday, Sam & her niece Cindy found Sams sister (and Cindy's mom)
Denise dead. Denise has been coming to our bible study and we are her only
church family. The family is devastated. Denise and Cindy, both were
attempting to get their lives together. They both accepted Jesus, but from
that time on tragedy has followed this family, and I see discouragement, and
confusion, as often there is not only in a babe in the Lord, but also in the
lives of those of us who are "seasoned", when faced with one tragedy after
another. In the few months that Denise and Cindy have given their lives over
to God, someone who appeared to be a Christian did something terrible to
Cindy's family(he is now in jail), Denise's brother(cindys uncle) Died a
month and a half later of cancer, he suffered very much, but on his death bed
gave his